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The Truth About Christmas and Easter

Dec 18, 2011 by     29 Comments    Posted under: Uncategorized

Wow, there is so much ruckus in the evangelical community right now about Christmas and Easter. The preachers and radio talk hosts are on the defensive big time and even going on the offensive against those who would condemn Christmas or Easter as having pagan roots. I even heard the “Bible Answer Man” (LOL), Hank Hanegraaff attacking those critical of Christmas by promoting a new book called Defending Constantine.

These people are going on the attack because they have a lot to lose. Their entire careers are on the line here and its very hard to swallow ones pride and admit you were wrong and go a different direction when you know you could lose your job over it. It’s completely different for a guy like me to change direction. The change in my life only came at the expense of a few family members thinking I was crazy or had become legalistic. These pastors and evangelical leaders instead have to answer to a board of directors that are in charge of paying their salary…and if they leave the reservation, well lets just say they don’t come back.

However, these mega preachers are seeing people leave the church in droves and even more coming to church leadership with questions that are hard to answer honestly without admitting doctrinal heresy.

I don’t have the numbers yet but I’m going to get them. Barna Group is saying that while its a fact that the main stream evangelical church is seeing a mass exodus, its not because those who are leaving are losing faith, but rather becoming educated and finding out that much of their church doctrine doesn’t match up with scripture. How bout that!

These facts just make these interesting times we live in, just all that more interesting.

Enjoy the Video!

Pagan Christmas

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  • His Truth is marching on, brother! Halleluyah! 🙂

  • Loved the video but wanted to let you know that you have a typo error as there is no 15th chapter in 2nd corinthians, I think you meant 1st Corinthians 15 @ 6 min and 23 sec in the video. 🙂

    • Thanks Andrew. It will be fixed.

  • “The Bible Answer Man” promoting a book titled “Defending Constantine;” kinda makes one wonder! Why aren’t these “Bible answer men” promoting defense of the TRUTH, VALIDITY, AND APPLICABILITY of the TORAH. But I guess since modern christianity actually owes it very life to Constantine, it makes perfect sense they have to protect their Constantinian priesthood!

    • Ugh! So sick of it all. They will all answer to YHVH one day and being pastors and teachers they obvoiusly know this! Do they live one life in the closet and another to appease the masses?

  • My fellowship just finished a study on Christmas and if it is ok to celebrate it. The key point to our study is that the bible does not give a date for birth of Yeshua. Also, the connection of Christmas and a Pagan organ might not be true. Some scholars believe that the celebration of Yeshua’s birthday started before the winter solstice, other pagan festivals, and before Constantine ruled. These scholars believe that early gentile believers were searching for Yeshua’s birth date to denounce the claim that Yeshua did not come in human from but of a spirit. I do have to mention that this happened after the separation form the Jewish believers. Their is no hard core facts about what happened thousands of years ago, so we can not say that Christmas necessarily has pagan ties. The problem I have with this video and others like it is where is the research and resources to back up this information. If the source of this information is “The Two Babylon’s” then it is not credible. This video said we must be Bereans, well if we really take an open look at Christmas, there is no hard evidence supporting either side.
    If we say Christmas is pagan, we must say money, cars, the calendar, and many other things have a history in paganism. The simple point is that (even Rabbi’s will say this) a lot of things have lost there pagan meaning through history. So, will HaShem punish you if you celebrate a day of Yeshua’s birth on Dec 25th or any other day, if you decide to spread the truth of the Gospel- NO!!!. We must stop saying everything is Pagan. There is a church I know off that will kick any member out if they celebrate Christmas. What kind of evil is this? We have become zealous for biblically non-essential matters. If you choose to celebrate Christmas or not, come to your conclusion through prayer and study. Let us make sure we do not separate ourselves from family on that day or any day of celebration. This is not the way of the Messiah. I personally do not think Dec 25th is Yeshua’s birthday, but I do celebrate it and us it as a day to pour out His Love on my family and friends. Please do the same.

    • Hi Aaron,

      To equate the pagan origins of Christmas to money, cars, the calendar is completely off the mark. Christmas is to be avoided because its linked to worship ritual practices that are heathen at best. Money and cars have nothing to do with “religion”. Money is something a person works for to provide for their families and livelihood. Cars are a luxury item that allow us to be mobile and provide convenience to life in this rapid-paced world. Christmas is a religious season to express worship to a particular deity and unfortunately its origins come from Babylonian sun-god worship.

      Messiah says that the Father is actively seeking those who will worship Him in Spirit and in Truth(John 4:23-24). Therefore, we cannot worship our Creator anyway we see fit. It has to be according to truth. And if one is honest with themselves, you will be hard pressed to find any Biblical Truth in Christmas. Worshiping our Creator in spirit and in truth is an important-essential matter. Therefore we need to know what true worship is and not taint that worship with ancient pagan practices that are offensive to a holy God. That is an important essential matter.

      No hard-core evidence to the origins of Christmas? Have you opened an Encyclopedia? Have you googled “origins of Christmas”? Have you done research on the countless documents of literature written within the last 1500 years of history? Have you investigated any of the religious archeological evidence? There are hundreds of thousands of witnesses concerning the origins of Christmas. Its written in History, Science, and Theology. Even pastors/religious teachers will tell you this. Not sure what kind of evidence you are looking for?

      If I converted from the Islamic faith to become a believer in the Jewish Messiah then its probably not a good idea that I continue to celebrate Ramadan with my family members because that would go contrary to what I believe I should do. This is only rational. Just because those who choose not to assemble with family at Christmas does not equate they do not love their family members. We have to put our faith and follow Messiah before we participate in holidays that go against our faith whether our families are engaged in it or not. I would not expect my family members to attend the Feast of Tabernacles or Passover just because I practice those holy days. I realize that my family members do not subscribe to those holy days, but that doesn’t equate that they don’t love me. It comes down to understanding the walk of faith we are individually responsible for.

      Shalom
      Chris

      • My dear, everything is pagan. That’s exactly why the Father had to give us the instructions so we could be holy (set apart). Following His instructions is the ONLY way to be holy and to be like He is.

        If you go to an occultist website and learn about their practices, which is dated before the birth of Yeshua, you will see the resemblance to what today Christmas/Easter is celebrated. There are plenty of sources.

        You can rejoice and celebrate the ‘dwelling with us’ during Tabernacles, which is mostly likely the time He was born. Removing all the green/red decorations and being in a Tent, which was His first dwelling, with nature and already obeying His fathers appointment. Think about that.

        Change is hard, it might take you time. The untangle can be slow, but I believe you want to please Him, so in time, you will feel different about it.

    • Wow I don’t know what to say to this except you obviously have not researched much (and I did that too).

      The ‘fellowship study’ was flawed to begin with. Since you did NOT find an exact date you concluded you can observe & honor God in any way & manner you want. This is lacking. What scholars do know is that the Messiah was 100% NOT born on 25 December and that the worship of the pagan sun god was. Bible scholars have narrowed down the Messiah’s birth to the sept / oct time frame and this makes sense when you look at the dates & times in scriptures, weather patterns in Israel, Feasts of the Lord, etc. This is nice to know info but there is No command to make a NEW celebration/holiday/holy convocation because of His birth anywhere. Matter of fact there is NO example in scripture of anyone other than God declaring and establishing a holy day/convocation/feast/celebration. That in itself is enough to disprove the point but lets continue & search the scriptures.

      As for claiming “Also, the connection of Christmas and a Pagan origin might not be true.” Is lacking; pagan practices throughout history have been tracked and annotated with great detail numerous scholars. Nimrod, his wife Semiramis and son Tammuz (and the many names they were known by = false gods like Osiris, Isus, Ishtar, Astarte, Ninus, Queen of Heaven, Baal, etc, etc). This info is verified from numerous sources, encyclopedias, works of pagan & religious sects (not from Hislop), historical, religious works, etc. In college classes around the U.S. (secular & christian) you can find numerous proofs. So that dog don’t hunt. Do the research & you will see IF you really want to know the truth. Here is one link that explains the pagan origins and has LOTS of references…

      http://www.biblicallifeassembly.org/library/pdf/Feasts_of_the_gods.pdf another good link is here…

      http://www.studylight.org/dic/hbd/view.cgi?number=T2340

      You mentioned “we must be bereans” and yet you present a question with a twist… “So, will HaShem punish you if you celebrate a day of Yeshua’s birth on Dec 25th or any other day, if you decide to spread the truth of the Gospel- NO!!!.”

      A couple things wrong with this…

      1. Your saying we can worship God in ANY WAY we see fit & there are no restrictions in scripture; this is where your fellowship study is lacking because scripture is clear on this topic…

      Deuteronomy 12:30-31 “take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.’ You SHALL NOT worship the Lord your God in that WAY; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods”.

      Jeremiah 10:2-4 -Thus saith the LORD, Learn not THE WAY of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers that it move not.

      Did your fellowship study these scriptures?

      So we see in God’s word where God Himself states we are to NOT worship or serve Him via the customs or ways of the pagans; and NOT to use anything pagan in regards to Him. Notice how in Jeremiah the reference to the ‘christmas tree’. Does God want us to do this? This scripture shows God says NO without exception. Even in the NT believers are warned about not following the ways of the world, which are wicked & abominations before Him. God is the same yesterday, today & forever so we should not mix and Christianize pagan customs and ways.

      2. You then throw in the “if you decide to spread the truth of the Gospel- NO!!!” relies on false logic. Your trying to imply a logical connection where none exists. Your equating evangelism, which is a known truth, with mixing of paganism into serving the Almighty, which is a lie (according to the scriptures quoted). Its like saying rape is ok IF you decide to spread the truth of the Gospel – NO!!! You cannot mix the two.

      Your fellowship also seems to forget that no where in scripture, OT or NT, is there a command, or that no prophet ever prophesied that a new holiday / holy convocation would arise because of the birth of the Messiah. However we do see the commands to NOT learn the ways or customs of the pagans.

      Your comment “If we say Christmas is pagan, we must say money, cars, the calendar, and many other things have a history in paganism.”

      This is not true either.

      Why? Because money, the calendar, cars (transportation in the bible horses, donkeys, carts, etc) in the bible do NOT have pagan origins – they were not made to worship false gods. God set up His calendar (Sabbaths, feasts, convocations, new moons, etc), created transportation (horses, donkeys, etc) and a system of money (gold & silver). If you want to get technical the cars/transportation & money is amoral, the calendar is holy/set apart & Christmas was 100% pagan. No one is saying ‘everything is pagan’ because its not. Please don’t make false accusations as a way to try & prove your point; it only shows the weakness of your argument.

      The big difference is that Christmas IS pagan in origin – it was the celebration of the sun god, which can be traced back to Nimrod & his son Tammuz. Nothing from God was ever instituted on Dec 25 – no feast, no holy convocation, etc.

      Now lots of well meaning believers say “Well in my heart I celebrate the birth of Christ on Dec 25” however that dog does not hunt because of the previously quoted scriptures. Do we see any OT or NT believer commended for observing a pagan way/custom but in their heart they are celebrating something of God? Nope = nuff said.

      Now I do agree with your statement “If you choose to celebrate Christmas or not, come to your conclusion through prayer and study”. However in light of the truth in scripture the question should rather be “Am I going to submit to God and His word or the customs & ways that are in conflict with Him and His word?” Gee I think Yeshua’s message of “Repent or perish” applies.

      As me and my house we will serve the Lord and not try to use white washed pagan practices with ‘christianity” to gloss over the disobedience for not observing His Sabbaths, Feasts, etc. True, each needs to make their own decision but we must remember HE determines what is right, not us. No where in scripture do we see God compromising on His standards.

      Let me leave you with this… 1 Cor. 5:6-8 – Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

      Please rethink your position and get back to His word.

    • You might also want to read about God’s standards and that it does not matter if a lot of people are doing something, it does not mean its holy or right in the eyes of the Lord.

      Numbers 16 – Rebellion of Korah

      16 Now Korah the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, with Dathan and Abiram the sons of Eliab, and On the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men; 2 and they rose up before Moses with some of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty leaders of the congregation, representatives of the congregation, men of renown. 3 They gathered together against Moses and Aaron, and said to them, “You take too much upon yourselves, for all the congregation is holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the Lord?”

      4 So when Moses heard it, he fell on his face; 5 and he spoke to Korah and all his company, saying, “Tomorrow morning the Lord will show who is His and who is holy, and will cause him to come near to Him. That one whom He chooses He will cause to come near to Him. 6 Do this: Take censers, Korah and all your company; 7 put fire in them and put incense in them before the Lord tomorrow, and it shall be that the man whom the Lord chooses is the holy one. You take too much upon yourselves, you sons of Levi!”

      8 Then Moses said to Korah, “Hear now, you sons of Levi: 9 Is it a small thing to you that the God of Israel has separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to Himself, to do the work of the tabernacle of the Lord, and to stand before the congregation to serve them; 10 and that He has brought you near to Himself, you and all your brethren, the sons of Levi, with you? And are you seeking the priesthood also? 11 Therefore you and all your company are gathered together against the Lord. And what is Aaron that you complain against him?”

      12 And Moses sent to call Dathan and Abiram the sons of Eliab, but they said, “We will not come up! 13 Is it a small thing that you have brought us up out of a land flowing with milk and honey, to kill us in the wilderness, that you should keep acting like a prince over us? 14 Moreover you have not brought us into a land flowing with milk and honey, nor given us inheritance of fields and vineyards. Will you put out the eyes of these men? We will not come up!”

      15 Then Moses was very angry, and said to the Lord, “Do not respect their offering. I have not taken one donkey from them, nor have I hurt one of them.”

      16 And Moses said to Korah, “Tomorrow, you and all your company be present before the Lord—you and they, as well as Aaron. 17 Let each take his censer and put incense in it, and each of you bring his censer before the Lord, two hundred and fifty censers; both you and Aaron, each with his censer.” 18 So every man took his censer, put fire in it, laid incense on it, and stood at the door of the tabernacle of meeting with Moses and Aaron. 19 And Korah gathered all the congregation against them at the door of the tabernacle of meeting. Then the glory of the Lord appeared to all the congregation.

      20 And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying, 21 “Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment.”

      22 Then they fell on their faces, and said, “O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and You be angry with all the congregation?”

      23 So the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 24 “Speak to the congregation, saying, ‘Get away from the tents of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.’”

      25 Then Moses rose and went to Dathan and Abiram, and the elders of Israel followed him. 26 And he spoke to the congregation, saying, “Depart now from the tents of these wicked men! Touch nothing of theirs, lest you be consumed in all their sins.” 27 So they got away from around the tents of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram; and Dathan and Abiram came out and stood at the door of their tents, with their wives, their sons, and their little children.

      28 And Moses said: “By this you shall know that the Lord has sent me to do all these works, for I have not done them of my own will. 29 If these men die naturally like all men, or if they are visited by the common fate of all men, then the Lord has not sent me. 30 But if the Lord creates a new thing, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the pit, then you will understand that these men have rejected the Lord.”

      31 Now it came to pass, as he finished speaking all these words, that the ground split apart under them, 32 and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households and all the men with Korah, with all their goods. 33 So they and all those with them went down alive into the pit; the earth closed over them, and they perished from among the assembly. 34 Then all Israel who were around them fled at their cry, for they said, “Lest the earth swallow us up also!”

      35 And a fire came out from the Lord and consumed the two hundred and fifty men who were offering incense.

      36 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 37 “Tell Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, to pick up the censers out of the blaze, for they are holy, and scatter the fire some distance away. 38 The censers of these men who sinned against their own souls, let them be made into hammered plates as a covering for the altar. Because they presented them before the Lord, therefore they are holy; and they shall be a sign to the children of Israel.” 39 So Eleazar the priest took the bronze censers, which those who were burned up had presented, and they were hammered out as a covering on the altar, 40 to be a memorial to the children of Israel that no outsider, who is not a descendant of Aaron, should come near to offer incense before the Lord, that he might not become like Korah and his companions, just as the Lord had said to him through Moses.

      Complaints of the People

      41 On the next day all the congregation of the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron, saying, “You have killed the people of the Lord.” 42 Now it happened, when the congregation had gathered against Moses and Aaron, that they turned toward the tabernacle of meeting; and suddenly the cloud covered it, and the glory of the Lord appeared. 43 Then Moses and Aaron came before the tabernacle of meeting.

      44 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 45 “Get away from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment.”

      And they fell on their faces.

      46 So Moses said to Aaron, “Take a censer and put fire in it from the altar, put incense on it, and take it quickly to the congregation and make atonement for them; for wrath has gone out from the Lord. The plague has begun.” 47 Then Aaron took it as Moses commanded, and ran into the midst of the assembly; and already the plague had begun among the people. So he put in the incense and made atonement for the people. 48 And he stood between the dead and the living; so the plague was stopped. 49 Now those who died in the plague were fourteen thousand seven hundred, besides those who died in the Korah incident. 50 So Aaron returned to Moses at the door of the tabernacle of meeting, for the plague had stopped.

      This made me think twice about claiming something was holy when God did not.

    • Aaron… I would research the worship of Mithra and Ishtar, also the birth dates. You will probably come up with the answers to your questions. I’m sure you will find that these things are not something that we should be doing to worship and celebrate the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob…

      Deu 12:30 guard yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire about their mighty ones, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their mighty ones? And let me do so too.’31 “Do not do so to יהוה your Elohim, for every abomination which יהוה hates they have done to their mighty ones, for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their mighty ones.
      Deu 12:32 “All the words I am commanding you, guard to do it – do not add to it nor take away from it.

      Shalom

    • Galatians 4:8-11 “Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9 But now that you know God–or rather are known by God–how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.”

      Hmmmm… did the pagans celebrate Passover, Unleavened Bread, Shavu’ot, Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot? So, which “special days and months and seasons and years” did the pagans celebrate before they knew Elohim? Well, it seems from these verses that even Paul considered all of his time spent teaching the Galatians a complete waste of time if they were celebrating the days they did before they began walking in Elohim’s set apart days which are in accordance with the Scriptures. Read the verse again Aaron, and ask yourself if you agree with Paul and fear for the souls of those who celebrate Christmas and Easter.

      Deuteronomy 12:29-32 “29 The LORD your God will cut off before you the nations you are about to invade and dispossess. But when you have driven them out and settled in their land, 30 and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” 31 You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. 32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.

      Can Chirstmas be added to God’s holy days? No. Even if the Messiah was born on December 25 (which he most certainly was not according to the Scritpures) we are told not to add or take away from what Elohim told us to do. Did He tell us to do Christmas? No. Did He tell us to do Sukkot? Yes. In fact, the only way we could incorporate His day of birth is if it fell on a day that He already appointed, because we can’t add to or take away from His set apart days. From the study I’ve done, I find it hard to conclude that the Messiah was born at any other time of the year than Sukkot. It’s all in the Scriptures, you just have to be diligent in prayer and study.

      Shalom,
      Dan

  • Wow, you have done an excellent job of summarizing the facts in such a short video! This may be the most useful video available on this subject at this time to hand out, since most others are much longer and many do not have enough patience to sit them out. Thank you for doing this!

  • Aaron you are the smartest person on here. You could teach these people a lot if they would just listen to you instead if being so mean.

  • Let’s give a show of support for the holidays that are actually in the Bible!

  • 1 Corinthians 11:1 “Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ. 2 Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you.”

    Samantha, I have two questions for you to answer (please support with Scripture)…

    1. Did Paul adopt these pagan holidays that you are celebrating into his lifestyle?

    2. What do we see Paul doing in Scripture and what traditions is he referring to in this passage?

    Hint: Shabbat, Pesach, Feast of Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Shavuot, Trumpets, Yom Kippur, and Sukkot

  • Absolutely! I give a hardy ‘thumbs up’ to celebrating Jesus’ birth. Sukkot is the perfect time to celebrate it. He was born in a temporary shelter, and it’s the holiday of God that commemorates the Israelites dwelling in temporary shelters. It’s when I put up my manger scene.

    • So do I. It truly is a season of our joy.

  • Samantha, I sent you an email at your yahoo account you use on my site explaining to you why I will not allow you to post on this site anymore. You have ignored questions, refused to acknowledge questions posed at you and refused to debate. A simple webcam cost around $12 at best buy. If you wish to keep posting on this site, you have to first debate me on youtube. Heck, I’ll even pay for the webcam for you.

    But its obvious that you are not interested in debates in scripture. So feel free to go post on another website.

  • I am a Christian who observes Christmas. I do not want to celebrate something pagan and this video definitely makes me want to investigate this further. I am wondering, can you cite the references where you obtained this historical information? I am not here to argue at all, just seeking the truth. You can private message me them if you prefer.

    • I would check out a video by Jim Staley called Truth and Traditions for the details. http://youtu.be/-RdJvQg7YqI

      My video was just a quick “facts” video. Also a new video out called “Sunburned” by 119 ministries is good too. Blessings in your search for Truth!

      -z

      • Yes, Sunburned is a must.

  • Great teaching as always. YHWH has inspired you to speak truth, may that never change. Bless you my brother !

  • Excellent job brother Zachary. Well articulated and presented. Every piece of your argument is factual. I strive to be like the Berean’s and so I delight in doing my homework. Continue to present nothing but the truth. May YAHWEH be glorified through these truth filled videos. Blessings and Shalom!

  • History repeats itself. Wasn’t the call to repent that infuriated the religious leaders?

  • Love the vid! Any on how to celebrate Hanukkah?

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