Colossians 2:16 and Zech 11
Posted under: It’s question and answer day! I get lots of emails now for some reason. I’m humbled and grateful that some would take the time to write me. I don’t have time to reply back to all the notes I get from facebook, youtube, twitter and the website but I do try to read them all so please be understanding. I really am grateful.
Today I answer questions from Jennifer and Kevin. Usually I try to set aside great questions when I get them for a video later.
Colossians 2:14-16 comes up A LOT! Enjoy the video!
[dropcap3]IT[/dropcap3] – What is “it”? What is nailed to the cross? According to the Greek text in this verse, it (autos) is the cheirographon, the hand-written certificate of debts. Isn’t that clear enough? What Yeshua nailed to the cross (metaphorically) is our debt accounting record, the record of all our sins that condemns us. Yeshua took away that piece of paper that said, “You owe.” But if you read this verse in the NIV, there is a significant change. The NIV says, “having canceled the written code with its regulations.” According to the NIV, the Torah was nailed to the cross, not the debts we accumulated due to disobedience but the regulations themselves! This mistaken translation (or was it deliberate?) finds its way into popular Greek lexicons too. Thayer’s Greek Lexicon suggests that Paul applies cheirographon metaphorically for “the Mosaic law.” In other words, some Christian theologians and translators simply converted a document that specified our debts into the entire legal system of rules!
Haha, you nailed it.
1) I’ve talked with one seminary educated pastor, amd he said he’d have to check you out, which I translated to mean, “I’m a chicken, there’s no way I’m gonna let the world know christianity is promulgating anti-Torah nonsense. I didn’t even get to speak the pastor of the largest Assembly of God church in Missouri, his “executive assistant” chickened out for him. LOL!! I may call around and talk to some others, the hilarity it would create!
2) I attended Central Bible College in Springfield, Missouri for 3 1/2 years, and they don’t teach you anything, really, of great value. Most is just anti-Torah, man made ideas and doctrine! I am grateful the Father opened my eyes to the truth, but for Him to bring me there has cost me my family, and much emotional pain, and infidelity. So when people tell me “nobody said it would be EASY,” I just have to let out a big ‘ol “you’re clueless about me” laugh! Anyway, good vid! And, don’t hold your breath waiting for a pastor to debate you.
Shalom in Messiah Yeshua,
Kyle
Ephesians 2
Hey Kyle, I attended Southeastern University (another Aseemblies fo God School in S. Florida) for 4 yrs. I am an AG Pastor’s son and I am currently training to be ordained as an AG Pastor myself. I have been learning/keeping Torah for almost 2 years now. My goal is to teach at a local church/congregation and slowly ease them into elements of Torah. I don’t know why I’m telling you all this except so you might know, there are other former AG folks out there walking in Torah. Bible college, like your experience taught me little. It has been a year and a half of the Father’s Spirit working in me and guiding me to Torah teachers. Bless you and feel free to find me on facebook and/or email. gabrielrutledge@gmail.com
Oh, P.S.,
My dad attended Central and mom graduated from Evangel.
Thanks Zach! You helped out a LOT … the word that was in the email was “Beulah” … I think it’s in the NKJV … basically it means “beauty’.
I’d like to add a little to your Colossians 2 talk. Verse 16 starts with “So” … which ties it to the sentence before it. The sentence (in full) in before it starts with verse 8:
Col 2:8-15 “Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins [fn] of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with [Him] through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.”
Basically, if you read verse 16+ in context, it is talking about the exact contrast to philosophy, empty deceit and the traditions of men. Was God’s Law the tradition of men? Nope … in fact it is eternal. So, Zach, you’re right when you were asking “What if it means the exact opposite?”
Thanks for letting me ramble.
Yeah I was totally going to point out that verse and when I had finished the video and realized I didn’t mention it, I didn’t want to start all over. But yeah! Totally it makes it clear that he is talking about the traditions of men that these particular believers in COLOSSAE are surrounded by worldly pagans who would be critical of them keeping the new moons and sabbaths, etc (verse 16). Spot on brother.
Many times when Paul or Yeshua is talking about the traditions of men, they are talking about Jewish Oral traditions…but in this case, Paul is talking about pagan traditions.
Regarding verses, there is one thing I have found that helps. Copy the whole letter into a word processor, and delete the verse number and chapters.
Such a smooth read!
Your brain automatically puts a pause between verses and separates chapters. Eliminating that puts a whole new perspective on things!
Thank you soooo much for my answer. I can’t wait to have my mother watch this (if I can convince her to). And, since my non-believing son told me yesterday that since I was abstaining from pork, that ‘that Old Testament stuff mom’. I’m not very good at explaining things, so this will help tremendously! God Bless you!!
I guess if you try hard enough you can make the Word say whatever you want it to say. If you have peace keeping the law and restricting your diet then go for it but don’t condemn people who feel that these verses give them freedom to eat what they want and not to hold all the feast days.
Lorena, you have the freedom to eat whatever you want…but the Father calls eating something unclean an abomination. You’re not offending me, you’re offending Him. Don’t get mad at me, I didn’t write the scriptures, He did.
Unfortunately, scripture is not up for private interpretation. Therefore, once we see what it’s truly saying, when we actually read it in context….scripture states that we should in fact point out a brothers wrong doings to him. Hold eachother accountable in love.