There was another really good comment on my site the other day and I wanted to share it. So many times when debating a “christian” about Torah and a True Walk with the Messiah, it turns into like a high stakes poker game to see who will call first. Verses are thrown around like poker chips and I wonder how often we read them in context.
So many people pick and choose the verses they think proves their point without trying to validate them.
So in a recent argument, a “christian” quotes Paul from Galatians and Romans to show that the law was done away with. I have said it over and over again. Any verse you see from Paul that SEEMS to say that the law is done away with, is only referring to 1 of 2 things. He is either talking about the law of man; the traditions and doctrines of man OR the law of sin and death meaning the PUNISHMENT for the sins we have committed. Our Messiah took on the punishment of our transgressions and nailed them to the cross. NOT THE LAW itself.
And so to prove the point that Paul was not talking about the law(TORAH) itself, a reader posted the following comment:
I see your Pauline-end-of-story-proof-text and I raise you 9…
“For it is not the hearers of the LAW who are righteous before God, but the doers of the LAW who will be justified.”
“Do we then make void the LAW through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the LAW.”
“Wherefore the LAW is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.”
“For I delight in the LAW of God according to the inward man.”
“For we know that the LAW is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin.”
“But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the LAW, confessing that the LAW is good.”
“I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the LAW of God; but with the flesh the LAW of sin.”
“Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the LAW of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”
1 Timothy 1:8
“But we know that the LAW is good, if a man use it lawfully;”
Questions for you to prayerfully consider: Do you find it strange that every single verse you quote is from Paul? Does it strike you as odd that Paul completely contradicts what we see written in the rest of the Book? Doesn’t it raise a red flag that these verses even seem to contradict what Paul himself said (and did) elsewhere in Scripture? Peter warned us about this long ago…
2 Peter 3:14
“14 Therefore, beloved, since you are waiting for these, be diligent to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. 15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of LAWLESS(TORAHLESS) PEOPLE and lose your own stability.”
If YOU WISH to continue quoting a few choice texts of Paul to justify a LAWLESS lifestyle, you do so at your own risk. These popularly used proof-texts cannot be elevated to a stature above the rest of Scripture (especially the words that came from our Messiah’s own mouth), they must be interpreted and understood in a way that brings them in line with the rest of Word.
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
I encourage you to continue to work these things out humbly and with an open heart. We’ve all been exactly where you are at one point or another and know just how difficult it can be to consider that we’ve messed things up and gotten it all wrong.
Amen and amen!